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I found this:
http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1087998.html
I just love it. Here "wächst zusammen, was zusammengehört" :D - "old" fandom and "new" fandom, united in wank. I'm awed that the wank isn't dead yet, despite being sixty years old. Not surprised, mind you - I've been to enough "traditional" cons, and read enough fan history, to have been disabused of any notions that that kind of fandom was inherently more peaceful or what have you! *g*
What I love particularly about this, though, is that it got posted to fandom_wank in the first place. It sort of confirms the impression I've been getting over the last few years that the barriers (which have never been entirely impermeable, of course) between these two "kinds" of fandom are becoming more and more permeable. I think I first began to notice this in DW fandom, with its split between "classic Who" and "new Who" fen. At some of the "interfaces" between the two groups, people inevitably began to mingle and communicate.
Of course, even "old school" DW fandom isn't exactly identical with traditional SF fandom; there's another old, old split here between the "literary" fen and those who got into fandom via "media" fandoms... and that's still in effect, I think. But the awareness seems to be growing that we have things in common; that, in fact, we may have sprung from the same tradition.
There also seems to be a greater convergence between these two kinds of fandom and comics fandom lately, and there seems to be a great increase of media fen, and female media fen especially, branching out into comics. Multifannishness is becoming ever more inclusive (or so it seems to me, here on the sidelines.)
I think Livejournal is an important factor in this development - perhaps *the* most important factor. I remember that a few years ago most of the fannish users of LJ seemed to be fanfic-oriented media fen. But this really seems to have changed - nowadays, a lot of people who are affiliated more with "traditional" SF fandom are on LJ, too, and - even more recently, it seems to me - comics fandom has arrived here, too. And suddenly everybody gets to see everybody else's multifannish associations, and things just... open up...
http://www.journalfen.net/community/fandom_wank/1087998.html
I just love it. Here "wächst zusammen, was zusammengehört" :D - "old" fandom and "new" fandom, united in wank. I'm awed that the wank isn't dead yet, despite being sixty years old. Not surprised, mind you - I've been to enough "traditional" cons, and read enough fan history, to have been disabused of any notions that that kind of fandom was inherently more peaceful or what have you! *g*
What I love particularly about this, though, is that it got posted to fandom_wank in the first place. It sort of confirms the impression I've been getting over the last few years that the barriers (which have never been entirely impermeable, of course) between these two "kinds" of fandom are becoming more and more permeable. I think I first began to notice this in DW fandom, with its split between "classic Who" and "new Who" fen. At some of the "interfaces" between the two groups, people inevitably began to mingle and communicate.
Of course, even "old school" DW fandom isn't exactly identical with traditional SF fandom; there's another old, old split here between the "literary" fen and those who got into fandom via "media" fandoms... and that's still in effect, I think. But the awareness seems to be growing that we have things in common; that, in fact, we may have sprung from the same tradition.
There also seems to be a greater convergence between these two kinds of fandom and comics fandom lately, and there seems to be a great increase of media fen, and female media fen especially, branching out into comics. Multifannishness is becoming ever more inclusive (or so it seems to me, here on the sidelines.)
I think Livejournal is an important factor in this development - perhaps *the* most important factor. I remember that a few years ago most of the fannish users of LJ seemed to be fanfic-oriented media fen. But this really seems to have changed - nowadays, a lot of people who are affiliated more with "traditional" SF fandom are on LJ, too, and - even more recently, it seems to me - comics fandom has arrived here, too. And suddenly everybody gets to see everybody else's multifannish associations, and things just... open up...
