So...

Jan. 11th, 2011 11:37 am
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anybody else already know pretty much for a fact that, short of a lottery win or a surprise inheritance, they're gonna be dirt poor in their old age?

What all this means, of course...

Date: 2011-01-11 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hmpf.livejournal.com
is that I really need to get off my ass and start exploring alternative communal ways of living and so on. I-help-take-care-of-your-kids-now-you-help-take-care-of-me-when-I'm-old; that kind of thing. 'Cause there's no way in hell I'm going to be able to support myself financially when I'm not physically fit anymore.

'course, another solution would be...

Date: 2011-01-11 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hmpf.livejournal.com
to never become "not physically fit". But since my joints are already in a sorry state, I don't think that's an option (short of killing myself, that is - which isn't really an option I seriously consider).

All of this is highly academic, anyway.

Date: 2011-01-11 02:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hmpf.livejournal.com
Since most of the time I don't really believe society in its current form will still be around when I'm 67. (All the more annoying, though, to have to 'give' all my money to an insurance company, never to be seen again, under the circumstances! I probably wouldn't do it, if it weren't the only way to qualify for Hartz 4 now.)

Re: All of this is highly academic, anyway.

Date: 2011-01-11 02:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diotimah.livejournal.com
I completely agree. Remember, all the insurances that predated the Great War and then the inflation of the 1920s were destroyed in said events, as were those that then predated WWII became worthless in turn. And there were similar crises in the 19th and even 18th centuries, although of course on a much smaller scale, because the vast majority of people weren't involved with 'Capitalism', but still lived on a subsistence basis. Which is why I don't think private life insurances/saving plans work anyway.

Re: What all this means, of course...

Date: 2011-01-11 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diotimah.livejournal.com
The problem with this, however, is that you have to be the kind of person who can pull that off. Particularly if you don't have kids of your own.

Re: What all this means, of course...

Date: 2011-01-11 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hmpf.livejournal.com
Not so much a question of being the right kind of person as finding the right kind of project, I think. I'm not really thinking of founding one on my own. But I do think things like that already exist. I need to find out more about them, obviously.

This could have the added benefit of salving my conscience in more ways than one. Ideally, I'd like some kind of communal living, eco-type/sustainability-focused project - something that shows a possible way forward out of the whole mess we're in, not just regarding one aspect of it.

Re: What all this means, of course...

Date: 2011-01-11 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] diotimah.livejournal.com
Not so much a question of being the right kind of person as finding the right kind of project, I think.

Yes, I agree on this. 'Society' (whatever or whoever *that* is) needs to develope new ways of living together yet still independently, of supporting people in their old age etc.

This could have the added benefit of salving my conscience in more ways than one. Ideally, I'd like some kind of communal living, eco-type/sustainability-focused project - something that shows a possible way forward out of the whole mess we're in, not just regarding one aspect of it.

True. It's indeed a multi-dimensional issue, and solutions will only work if they consider all aspects of it, as well as the dynamics between them.

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