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I'm depressed.

Date: 2003-03-09 10:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kadira.livejournal.com
*hugs*

I've missed you too!

Date: 2003-03-09 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
You commented that Aeryn hasn't seemed *off* to you in Season 4. In some aspects, I have to agree. I wasn't put off by her change of make-up or the hair piece she wears sometimes and not others. I just figured, 'oh, new make-up artist', which turned out to be the case.

I missed the kick-butt Aeryn, the one we all fell in love with. I tried to slough off the odd behavior with the thought that hormones from her pregnancy must be effecting her. If she came back to Moya to get John back into her life, why didn't she just reach out and grab him? The boy has always been so besotted that although he might protest, it would be more like "Don't! Stop! Don't stop!!"

I lay this squarely at the feet of DK and the writers. They lost the path. I think it was cofax that said that her beta readers would never let her get away with the dren that the PAID Farscape writers have offered up this season. Now, I think there are exceptions. I loved 'Crichton Kicks', and 'John Quixote' was awesome. 'Unrealized Reality' stretched beyond my understanding and I struggled to understand. Fantastic. Most of the rest was, excuse the vernacular, crap.

You are not any less perceptive than anyone else. Your interpretation of the episodes is YOURS. No right or wrong answers. You can't flunk out of this class.

None of us want the story to end, not like this Is this what happened with Highlander, or did it have proper closure?

Chin up, Little One. We'll get through this.

Sheridan

Season four (overall quality)

Date: 2003-03-09 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hmpf.livejournal.com
>I lay this squarely at the feet of DK and the writers. They lost the path.

I don't think they did, at least not very much. It's true that they dawdled(?) a bit, and maybe took too roundabout a way to get where they wanted to go, but then, they didn't know that they only had this season. It's not like DS9, where the writers used half of season seven, the last season, to introduce a new character, instead of wrapping up their dozens of dangling plot threads!

>I think it was cofax that said that her beta readers would never let her get away with the dren that the PAID Farscape writers have offered up this season. Now, I think there are exceptions. I loved 'Crichton Kicks', and 'John Quixote' was awesome. 'Unrealized Reality' stretched beyond my understanding and I struggled to understand. Fantastic. Most of the rest was, excuse the vernacular, crap.

Wow. That's harsh. That's really harsh. Let's see. What's the good, the bad and the ugly in *my* book?

The absolutely frelling stunning:

Crichton Kicks
Terra Firma
A Constellation of Doubt
We're So Screwed 2
We're So Screwed 3

The pretty damn frelling good:

Promises
I Shrink, Therefore I Am
John Quixote
Unrealised Reality
Kansas
Bringing Home the Beacon
We're So Screwed 1

The merely good:

What Was Lost 1
What Was Lost 2
A Prefect Murder
Prayer
Twice Shy

The not-so-good-but-had-some-moments:

Lava's A Many Splendored Thing
Coup By Clam

The boring:

Natural Election

The no-redeeming-features:

Mental As Anything


Overall, season four has rather more stunning eps for me than season three had, although it also has more duds. IMO it's about on par with season three in general. My favourite season is still season two. :-) The first half of the season was somewhat weak, and very, very meandering in terms of plot and character, but the second half has made up for it marvellously, IMO.

From: [identity profile] hmpf.livejournal.com
>None of us want the story to end, not like this

As I said, I'm actually quite happy with the way the story is 'ending', under the circumstances. I didn't expect or want closure, but I wanted some topics to be touched upon before the end, and they have. I'm very, very happy about the whole Earth arc and John's confrontation with his home/ex-home. I'm happy about the reappearance of Harvey, because his quick dispatching in Promises would have smelled all too much like a cop-out if Harvey hadn't resurfaced now. And I'm incredibly happy about the rediscovery of John's conscience. (Ooops, just occurred to me that my blog is brimming with spoilers!) I also like that Sikozu is beginning to make sense, and that Scorpy is getting a girlfriend... and the D'Argo and Chi thing...

>Is this what happened with Highlander, or did it have proper closure?

HL had closure, but if you ask me, the last two eps were, well, not very satisfying, at least not for a Methos fan. They suggested that but for Duncan MacLeod, Methos would still/again be a Horseman, and I couldn't believe that. Methos has managed *not* to fall back on his old ways for thousands of years. Why should he now suddenly turn back, just because he didn't meet MacLeod in 1995 or so? Very stupid, IMO. And fans in general, I take it, hated the last season.

Hating the last season of *anything* seems to be a popular sport in fandoms, anyway. DS9 season seven was the most reviled, too. (except maybe for season one.) B5 fans hate season five.
Though most of the times, the, forgive me, bitching starts a bit earlier. It seems that it is inevitable that after a few years a quite large proportion of fans start to hate the direction as show takes. I've sometimes agreed with the bitching, and sometimes disagreed. I agreed, sort of, for DS9 and B5. (Didn't watch enough HL to tell one way or the other.) I disagree as far as Farscape is concerned. The decline has not yet started, IMO.

Date: 2003-03-09 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hmpf.livejournal.com
Damn. I just wrote a several thousand words long comment and tried to post it, and was sent to a page that said: 'Sorry, your comment was too long. Please go back and shorten it.' And of course when I went back, my whole beautiful comment was gone. And now I can't even remember half of it. And it's so late I should really go to bed instead of trying to drag shreds up from memory again...

But I also know that I will have less time tomorrow than today...

One thing I remember is that the first sentence was something like: Great seeing you here! :-)


>You commented that Aeryn hasn't seemed *off* to you in Season 4. In some aspects, I have to agree. I wasn't put off by her change of make-up or the hair piece she wears sometimes and not others. I just figured, 'oh, new make-up artist', which turned out to be the case.

Oh, I wasn't talking about her looks, either. I don't like the new look, but heck, what does it matter? It's Aeryn... I like her, no matter how she looks!

>I missed the kick-butt Aeryn, the one we all fell in love with.

I thought she kicked butt just fine in 'I Shrink Therefore I Am', as in a number of later eps.

>I tried to slough off the odd behavior with the thought that hormones from her pregnancy must be effecting her.

Hardly, if the pregnancy wasn't activated yet. However, we do have one hint in that DK and co. wanted her to look like she had gone through hell when she returned in 'Promises'. She didn't actually look that bad, IMO, but I've always taken that to mean that she probably went through some Not So Nice Stuff while she was gone, even if it wasn't elaborated on. Also, I believe that being separated from John for the first time in years for an extended period showed her how much she missed him. How much she loved him. Add the child and the possibility that it's John's to that, and her change makes sense. At least to me. Plus, she's softened a great deal over the last four years, anyway. And she *does* still kick butt, IMO.

>If she came back to Moya to get John back into her life, why didn't she just reach out and grab him? The boy has always been so besotted that although he might protest, it would be more like "Don't! Stop! Don't stop!!"

Aeryn can't do such a thing. She's not used to relationships. Morevoer, she's not used to the strange double talk we humans use to mask our feelings. She needed John's family and even John's ex to tell her that he still wanted her. Peacekeepers are straightforward about such things; she took his 'no' for a no because if a PK said no, it *would* mean no. And she respected his no because she respects *him*.

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