Okay, he was not in full control of his mental faculties. But was he really entirely without will? And if he *wasn't*, if his willpower was just reduced - or even just the parts of it that inhibit socially unacceptable behaviour (sleeping with a person in your care; sleeping with someone else while you technically still are in a relationship) - does that mean, then, that every time someone has sex while extremely drunk, or high on something, without intending to have sex before reaching that mentally altered state, that person is being raped? [Sorry - horribly structured sentence. Too tired to reword.]
I saw the situation in 1.04 more as seduction under influence... which is sleazy enough, but not *quite* the same as full-on rape, IMO. There are degrees of will, degrees of decision, degrees of attraction etc. Don't get me wrong, what Joni does *is* totally reprehensible. I'm just not certain if it's the kind of thing that would cause deeply felt personal trauma (i.e.: rape), or the kind of thing that would cause 'only' deep anger and feelings of betrayal (i.e. seducing someone who trusted you under the influence of strong drugs). There is, for me, a different *level* of psychological injury involved here.
As for my catching up: well, nobody's going to tag their fic with "this fic fits Hmpfs very specific criteria for enjoyable LoM fic", are they? ;-) So I need to trawl through everything. Doesn't mean that I have to read every last word of every fic. I basically scan them quickly to check if they 'fit', and then I either read... or don't.
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Date: 2007-12-19 09:11 pm (UTC)I saw the situation in 1.04 more as seduction under influence... which is sleazy enough, but not *quite* the same as full-on rape, IMO. There are degrees of will, degrees of decision, degrees of attraction etc. Don't get me wrong, what Joni does *is* totally reprehensible. I'm just not certain if it's the kind of thing that would cause deeply felt personal trauma (i.e.: rape), or the kind of thing that would cause 'only' deep anger and feelings of betrayal (i.e. seducing someone who trusted you under the influence of strong drugs). There is, for me, a different *level* of psychological injury involved here.
As for my catching up: well, nobody's going to tag their fic with "this fic fits Hmpfs very specific criteria for enjoyable LoM fic", are they? ;-) So I need to trawl through everything. Doesn't mean that I have to read every last word of every fic. I basically scan them quickly to check if they 'fit', and then I either read... or don't.