>It's the basic tenet of most romance fiction. You can't really blame the fandom for following a centuries old trend?!
Not blaming anyone for anything, just noticed it's a concept that seriously turns me off. That is all. The fandom and the world at large are entirely welcome to write, read and enjoy it.
>Obviously, I haven't only ever written that kind of fic, but I am sort of writing it at the moment (I'd like to argue not, because I made the suggestion Sam and Maya was more of a love affair and that he still cared for her, but the coma had destroyed the last hopes of their relationship), so, you know, I really hope this isn't still kind of directed at me. I'm going to guess you haven't really been up to reading recent fic, though.
This wasn't directed at anyone. I just caught myself thinking, when looking at some recent summaries and titles (and I couldn't even tell you which ones they were; it was a very cursory look), "hey, if this is about what I think it may be about then I *really* don't want to read it, and I think I've just understood *why* I don't want to read it." So, just a random moment of self-recognition. :-)
>I just think --- Sam's problem definitely has always been himself, but you can't deny that he has a connection with Gene, that the conflict and caring that spans between them means something. And no, I don't just think it's coma madness making Sam more vulnerable. Gene talks to Sam. He tells him the truth, even when Sam doesn't want to hear it. It's fair to suggest Ruth never did, plus Maya avoids pushing him, and according to the script, tells him she's leaving by leaving a voicemail message. He put up that barrier, but previous relationships failed to break through. Gene doesn't always, but he's managed on several occasions.
That's why I said 'partly'. I agree that Gene is good at getting through to Sam - probably better than other people have been. I'm just saying he's not a magical miracle worker, and that there are other factors that are also very important.
>Sure, to say that Gene and Sam are soulmates and the only people to have ever made each other's lives better is ridiculous and bile-inducing, because they don't always make them better, sometimes they make them worse --- but at the same time, the show suggested that without trust --- without Gene --- Sam's got nothing to believe in. And that, I think, is very telling.
Yeah, but that is also part of my problem with the show, isn't it? This suggestion that *really*, there is no way Sam could ever live without Gene, that his entire happiness hangs on him. I do have a problem with that. It may be canon, but then, we know there's parts of canon I react rather allergic to... well, this is one of them.
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Date: 2009-02-13 10:45 pm (UTC)Not blaming anyone for anything, just noticed it's a concept that seriously turns me off. That is all. The fandom and the world at large are entirely welcome to write, read and enjoy it.
>Obviously, I haven't only ever written that kind of fic, but I am sort of writing it at the moment (I'd like to argue not, because I made the suggestion Sam and Maya was more of a love affair and that he still cared for her, but the coma had destroyed the last hopes of their relationship), so, you know, I really hope this isn't still kind of directed at me. I'm going to guess you haven't really been up to reading recent fic, though.
This wasn't directed at anyone. I just caught myself thinking, when looking at some recent summaries and titles (and I couldn't even tell you which ones they were; it was a very cursory look), "hey, if this is about what I think it may be about then I *really* don't want to read it, and I think I've just understood *why* I don't want to read it." So, just a random moment of self-recognition. :-)
>I just think --- Sam's problem definitely has always been himself, but you can't deny that he has a connection with Gene, that the conflict and caring that spans between them means something. And no, I don't just think it's coma madness making Sam more vulnerable. Gene talks to Sam. He tells him the truth, even when Sam doesn't want to hear it. It's fair to suggest Ruth never did, plus Maya avoids pushing him, and according to the script, tells him she's leaving by leaving a voicemail message. He put up that barrier, but previous relationships failed to break through. Gene doesn't always, but he's managed on several occasions.
That's why I said 'partly'. I agree that Gene is good at getting through to Sam - probably better than other people have been. I'm just saying he's not a magical miracle worker, and that there are other factors that are also very important.
>Sure, to say that Gene and Sam are soulmates and the only people to have ever made each other's lives better is ridiculous and bile-inducing, because they don't always make them better, sometimes they make them worse --- but at the same time, the show suggested that without trust --- without Gene --- Sam's got nothing to believe in. And that, I think, is very telling.
Yeah, but that is also part of my problem with the show, isn't it? This suggestion that *really*, there is no way Sam could ever live without Gene, that his entire happiness hangs on him. I do have a problem with that. It may be canon, but then, we know there's parts of canon I react rather allergic to... well, this is one of them.